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Mimir:

Hello, adventurers! Welcome to Behind the Blunders. That's right, we're here to talk to you about what happened and kind of discuss uh our thoughts on episode one. How exciting! So we're gonna get right into it, and here we go.

Wylie:

Okay, so we just played and recorded um our first episode of campaign one. And um what what do you guys think? Tell me what you guys think about it. My snacks!

Brad:

I was gonna say, first thing, you're gonna hear a lot of crunching and munching in this episode because uh we're just like, ah, we have our snacks back. Queen munching.

Wylie:

I feel like that's such a neglected thing in campaigns where when the characters really don't have food, they're never motivated to really find the food. So I knew this episode was gonna be a little bit quieter as we're getting introduced to the new world, as we're getting introduced to our characters. So um I thought, you know, what's something that could make it a little bit more punchy, a little more punchy, a little more

Brad:

definitely kept us driving because I was like, I would

Mimir:

I was upset. I was a little upset. I was like, man, I really, I really want I'm a I'm a slow eater and I want snacks. I love snacks. And then I had to drink the coffee. Oh, not the coffee. I hate coffee. I love tea, I hate coffee. It was so bad. I was I had I had a plastic water bottle that didn't give you, and I didn't drink it, but I thought about it. I was like, I was so bad.

Wylie:

I felt bad that you decided to drink the water first.

Brad:

I was just imagining it's just some moldy coffee that's been in there for weeks, and you're like, all right, if you try anything, here you go. Yeah.

Wylie:

It definitely isn't, it was fresh from this morning. Okay. I put it I put it in thermos you just couldn't see it.

Kipo:

Debatable.

Wylie:

I had actually prepped some cold coffee last week in case we got to recording, and I dumped it out. This is a totally different mug, so that's fresh.

Mimir:

That's funny.

Wylie:

With a hint of blueberries. So blueberries. It's pretty good iced coffee if you well, it is black though, so I'm I'm not a black coffee drinker.

Mimir:

Well, I don't drink any coffee.

Wylie:

Yeah. So we have a slightly slurly surly Mimir now.

Mimir:

Yeah, it's okay. I'm better now. I got my snacks, got a beef stick, we're doing we're doing well. I got water. We're great. Fun characters though.

Kipo:

Yes.

Mimir:

Yep. Want to talk about your obsession?

Kipo:

Uh I mean, it's pretty self-explanatory. Uh he's a simple He's a simple man.

Mimir:

That's it. And talks to other simple things.

Kipo:

Oh, sure, sure, yeah. Well well, you know, you can have a good relationship with anything.

Brad:

I just I just imagine there's a song on repeat in his in his head and some I wanna rock!

Kipo:

Um to wake up in a new place and immediately see just slate and rocks around him.

Mimir:

You thought you were in heaven, bro, right?

Kipo:

Or like, oh I yeah, I I mean, yeah. That was got up, immediately went to see what they were and logged them and uh

Mimir:

A nd it's all a new experience because you don't have your memory.

Kipo:

Right.

Mimir:

So all rocks are new rocks, all yeah.

Kipo:

Wow, but but he knows he loves them and uh yeah, so very, very excited for good old cobble. I think it'll be a good uh a good campaign with him kinda maybe messing some things up. I love that.

Mimir:

I can't wait for the tragic backstory of like a boulder like killed your family or a sudden boulder. That's a nice boulder. Like Shrek accidentally killed your family with a boulder or something. Yeah.

Brad:

It's not a boulder, it's a wreck.

Mimir:

We all have like different little quirks. You got a big Absolutely big man then

Kipo:

the rock, paper, scissors was very funny observation.

Brad:

It just it just randomly, I was just like, huh, yeah. Yeah, it's all because you said paper beats rock or covers rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it just was like, yeah, I mean, yeah, that makes sense. It's so good.

Wylie:

Yeah. That's fun. I really like that correlation because that was not planned at all. You guys didn't know anything about each other's characters until we recorded today, and it was just so fun how they're all fitting together.

Mimir:

Yeah, it's very funny. Maybe that's our like uh our name. Like Rock, Paper, Scissors, RPS.

Wylie:

What's your group name? Yeah, RPS. Your adventure party.

Mimir:

Oh I love the big axe. I love that. I love that you get a big axe.

Brad:

Yeah, yeah. There's a fun backstory behind it, but I'll wait and let that uh unfold as we go.

Mimir:

I love that. And we some of us wrote, I don't know, did you write a backstory to your character?

Kipo:

Oh, I'm sure he has one, yeah.

Mimir:

Oh, okay, cool, cool, cool. Um we wrote, but we don't know like our characters don't know that about themselves. Yeah. Um, and I gave like bullet points and things like that. Um, so I'm super excited to see how that gets trickled in. Right. Um, yeah. Because we knew that we were gonna wake up without knowledge. That's all we kind of knew about our characters. Yeah. So yeah.

Kipo:

Um well, we got out of uh that cave pretty quickly, thanks to your human sense of direction.

Brad:

Apparently, so just go left.

Mimir:

Yeah. All would it's really interesting because I think I think the quote in like adventuring is like uh all adventures go right, I'm pretty sure, or something like that. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure. And so it's very funny to always go left. Yeah, yeah.

Brad:

Um there's gonna come a point where we're just gonna do uh rock, paper, scissors to know which direction to go. That's so good, yeah.

unknown:

It's always rock. Always paper.

Brad:

I'm always scissors. So it depends on who depends on who goes against who.

Mimir:

Oh man, that's so funny.

Brad:

That's gonna be great.

Kipo:

That's so good. Throws rock gets excited, yeah. The hand is shaped like a rock. Yeah.

Brad:

Um starts talking to his hand.

Mimir:

That's cool. Is this a little mystery here? Little mystery.

Kipo:

We got what to expect.

Brad:

Yeah, I'm I'm interested. Um we've come up on a village and it's pretty rowdy, so I'm excited to see what's kind of going on.

Mimir:

Yeah, our stuff was buried in a chest under the sand.

Morpheus:

That is kind of weird, yeah.

Kipo:

With a stick. So time had passed. Mine, I mean, or if we're allowed to talk theories, so yeah, at this point, I the first thing that popped into my head was he said moldy food. I was like, okay, if we don't know what happened and our stuff is all buried here, but there was like a sign that there was stuff buried there, maybe we were we knew that we were gonna lose our memory and buried everything to set our future selves up for the success of finding that stuff. But I don't know how long we were out or what really happened, but how I mean, how moldy was that food? Like a week?

Wylie:

It was very moldy, it was like not food anymore.

Mimir:

Because the stick was also moldy.

Kipo:

It was rotted, yeah, rotten. So it might have been like an old while. I don't know. So that's my theory is that we did it. We hid it all.

Morpheus:

Oh, if we did, then apparently we had been asleep for I don't know. If if a stick has become rotted, food moldy, I would say probably somewhere like what six months, if not more, to a year.

Kipo:

Yeah, if it's in a damp damp wood, yeah.

Brad:

I'm not very science-y, but you know, just taking a guess about

Mimir:

it is interesting, yeah. It's interesting, I think, um how this is all gonna happen. And is this a repeated thing? So like we know that this is like if your theory is right, is this a thing that we're gonna like do constantly? Like, is this a like a ritual that we have to do? And so we're gonna go to sleep or something like that. And why do we pick a freaking cave, you know? Um, but yeah, yeah. Uh my character's not smart, so I have to make uh not good career decisions all the time. Um dinosaur egg, cool, very cool.

Wylie:

You guys do not seem that surprised by a dinosaur though.

Brad:

It seemed like No, I was pretty surprised. I mean, yeah. Well, first they were talking lizards, so I was like, okay, lizard, and then dinosaur. I was like, okay, alright.

Mimir:

I was hoping for it.

Kipo:

But this is homebrew.

Wylie:

No, we were an answer. This is homebrew.

Kipo:

So I I think that's why I wasn't not to say I wasn't surprised, but I was I liked it. I liked that there's a dinosaur. I was afraid, very afraid. Uh so glad there was a um passive way to do it. Well, who were you're Goliath? Yeah, Goliath. Yeah, Goliath just sitting in front of me, so that was nice. Yep. Yeah.

Wylie:

Yeah, it's a very different setting from our one-shot.

Kipo:

Yes. So yeah, we can be outside. I'm glad it's yeah, I'm glad it's

Mimir:

I actually enjoy it. Um I'm I I enjoy um the atmosphere. I love like jungle-ish campaigns. I love that kind of vibe. I've never played in one before, so I really wanna do something more like that. I guess I have played in one. Somebody that listens to this is gonna call me out or something like that. You play hey, I remember. But yeah. Um Dinosaurs, fun. And you've seen it, so you can turn into it. Yeah.

Brad:

That's a rule that is needing to be had so I can now turn into uh what was it called?

Wylie:

Dimodron.

Brad:

Dimodron.

Wylie:

Dim dim Metrodon.

Brad:

Dimit the Metrodon.

Wylie:

It's a challenge rating one half. I think you can do one quarter right now.

Brad:

One I can do one.

Wylie:

You can do up to one. Okay, one. So you could be one, yeah. Wow.

Morpheus:

Yeah, yeah.

Wylie:

Yeah. Um I'm gonna let you do.

Brad:

Although he doesn't know that yet, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wylie:

So you want to tell the listeners some secrets about your character that hasn't the campaign yet?

Brad:

Uh I mean I I can share one. Uh for Morpheus, um he thinks he is a barbarian. So he is actually a druid, but he believes that he is a barbarian. Uh, hence all the stuff that he's found. Um I I don't know how much I should should tell, how much you think. I don't know, it's good.

Wylie:

I think that part, yeah, that part's okay. Yeah.

Brad:

I'll I'll leave the the backstory to keep unfolding then.

Wylie:

But yeah, because your character doesn't know it yet.

Brad:

He's yeah, he's like, I'm I'm gonna be the greatest barbarian ever.

Mimir:

Good for him. I believe in him. I truly do.

Brad:

The skinny little stranding kid is like, I'm gonna be this big barbarian. Yep.

Wylie:

Yeah, he's fun. I like his personality. Yes, very good.

Brad:

Slightly angsty, but also really excited and anxious. Yeah.

Mimir:

I uh I have my uh book drawings. I have drawing of cave, uh cave dwellers is the name of the title. Uh the cat drawing, uh, so like the not only the footprints, but actually what may have been there. Uh and then I have tasty berries, and then I put tasty all in capitalized, uh, and then tracks, and then racetracks, and then uh chilling summer on the racetrack. Yeah. Uh and then the name of the town. So I'm excited. I'm excited for this book to come together. It'll be cool.

Wylie:

That's that's Zard's book.

Mimir:

Yeah, that's Zard's book. Yeah, Zard's working on his uh his story. That that's probably end of chapter one for him, because that was a lot, you know, for for a full chapter for him. Um, so yeah, super excited for Zard to I've had this idea for a long time for a bard um storyteller, but I really wanted to do something that was like, oh, okay, you know, and he's a swords bard, so it's like okay, I'm not just like telling stories and actually able to fight, but I live out the stories. So yeah, I love that.

Wylie:

Yeah, I think that's a fun combination, like a really interesting like motivation for for a bard. And I've never in any of the campaigns I've ever played, I've never had anyone be a stories bard. So that's really fun and interesting.

Mimir:

Yeah, my book is my uh spell casting, so it's kind of like a wizard, but in the sense of like it's stories, and like even giving I love that inspiration that I got to give you. It's like because it kind of hints at your true form, uh Brad. It hints at your true form um uh as like turning into a gorilla. Um but yeah, you know, that is just a story that that comes up, so it's cool.

Wylie:

Yeah, yeah, I like that. That's fun. Yeah, the characters are already meshing really well together and really fun and interesting. So yeah, well, I'm excited for next episode when we get into the town and you guys start to get to learn a little bit more about the world and stuff.

Brad:

Uh gigantic fellows. Yeah, the big like orcs. Yeah, I see those guys. Yep.

Wylie:

Yeah, so we'll describe it more in the episode too, but I give them an an image of the vibe of the town, and it's it's a bit kind of like little tar tortuga from parts of the Caribbean as that vibe, but um also like little little haunted kind of a look. See like gnomes running around and yeah, definitely a big variety of of gnomes and orcs and people and elves and half-elves and just all all kinds of people have come to this this town.

Mimir:

So that like green portal. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on here. I'm excited to get to know a couple of individuals. Especially that guy that's there's a dude holding the pint of uh whatever, and he looks so excited to hold it in the bottom left. So I can't wait to I'm meeting that guy.

Wylie:

I guess you guys will definitely be going inside the tavern then since you were able to see some of the characters I already threw on there. So yeah, they'll be fun. I'm excited for next time. So all right. Well, I'm glad you guys enjoyed the first episode so far, and we're definitely excited to pick up with the second one. Um, but I have some kind of chat questions for us too, as the listeners are getting to know us. And we actually haven't even played together that long either, so it's kind of us getting to know each other a little bit too. Um so the first question I have for us today, um, this question, a friend of mine got in an interview for a job. And the qu it's kind of one of those questions to sort of throw you a little bit. And so the question was what is the biggest animal that you would fight?

Brad:

And so this is me answering as you not as a character.

Wylie:

You can answer as your characters though if you guys want to also, but we should answer as ourselves, I think.

Kipo:

Is the animal hostile?

Wylie:

I mean you're fighting it, so yeah.

Kipo:

Okay, so it's also in the fight. Yeah, it's not just sitting.

Wylie:

It's not asleep. Because all of us could just sit on the side. It's Brian Manage.

Kipo:

Roll of the bells and room. Yeah, that area. All right, I mean in Mamira's like, do I have some rocks?

Mimir:

No.

Wylie:

I watched a lot of crocodile hunter growing up. I was a big fan. So I think some size of crocodile. I'd need to watch some more to determine that how big I think I can handle by myself on land, too. Like you know, that's a land and water creature. I'm just kidding. You know, I mean it could if it's small enough, you could get it by the tail, pull it out. So that's doable.

Brad:

The other question is uh do I is it just bare hand?

Wylie:

Yeah.

Brad:

Okay, so no gun, it's okay.

unknown:

Yeah, yeah.

Kipo:

We No, no traps. You just you're walking up. There it is.

Wylie:

You and this animal in an arena. You don't have to win.

Brad:

I would fight it.

Wylie:

Who would you be willing to fight?

Mimir:

I'd fight anything. Except for a horse. I'll literally fight anything except for a horse.

Brad:

I don't know if there's any winning against a horse, man. Yeah.

Mimir:

Dude, I'm terrified of the horses. But literally, I would I would probably I could fight. I mean, yeah, I would figure out I'd fight, I would fight anything. Yeah I literally could fight an elephant or a saber-tooth tiger, like I would fight anything.

Wylie:

But what do you think you could fight and survive? Like survival is a goal.

Kipo:

Um I'm gonna go for one because it it's actually a harder fight than you think it is, but also for the comedy of it would just be a chicken.

Wylie:

That would be great. That would be really fun.

Brad:

That's funny enough. I've actually fought some chickens in my life. I grew up with chickens, so those uh especially so not just regular roosters, but the banny roosters, the little ones, the mini roosters, dude. Those guys fast. They're fast, and they have like little man syndrome. Like they they just are like but I've also seen those little guys run around the larger chickens too. Like, don't mess and they're like, do not mess with that little guy. But yeah, they they they're rough.

Wylie:

Kipo, how many chickens do you think you would fight?

Kipo:

How many? I see now you're getting into it here. Uh let's see.

Wylie:

Like, do you think you just do one?

Kipo:

To fight and win?

Wylie:

Yeah.

Kipo:

Comfortably three.

Wylie:

Okay. You're very confident you could win against three.

Kipo:

I could win against three. Like I could take the beating from a few while I handle one.

Brad:

And then so getting pegged and spurred. Yeah. Yeah. So spurs are rough, man.

Kipo:

Yeah, I'm gonna take some, like I said, I'm gonna take some. You can't take some humans for the price I'm willing to take.

Wylie:

But you survive and you think you can handle three chickens.

Kipo:

Yeah, and then I get a meal after.

Mimir:

So there you go. We uh when I was a security guard, uh, we uh would walk with my other security guard friend. We had this question. I asked him this question. Um, and I said I could probably if I was like my life depended on it. I think we go in like humans, go into this like unnatural survival mode of like I'm fighting for my life, like I'm gonna go ham and things like that. So I said I could probably take two wolves.

Kipo:

Oh my gosh.

Mimir:

And I I I honestly think by myself, I probably could take one wolf, but it would be it would be a hard fight with two wolves. And like tactically, I like I I think I like like if we're in a cage, it's not sneaking up on me, you know, you know, it would be a I it would be a solid 50-50, but gladiator arena style.

Wylie:

Yeah, it doesn't have the jump on you. This isnt a natural environment.

Mimir:

I can wrongly, I it's just it would be difficult, but I'm fighting for my life and I'm like crazed out of my mind. Yeah, I would go into like a unnatural, supernatural mode where I would just like, all right, I'm beating the living daylights out of a wolf. So that would be my that's my answer. Um, it would be hard for sure, for sure. But yeah, yeah, crazy.

Brad:

Yeah, it's crazy. Goodness.

Mimir:

You gotta think, like, if three chickens were gonna try to kill you, you know, and you were fighting for your life.

Kipo:

All I'm saying is this may I think that made my answer seem pretty reasonable.

Mimir:

Hey, you know? I'm ready.

Wylie:

Wolves are bigger than you think, I feel like. Nothing nothing you think, but like when I see them, I'm always like, whoa, that's way bigger than the dog. Like they're shocking. There are hunters, yeah. Yeah. I know that you're aware of the size. I'm just saying in general for most people. Is this a thing in this room?

Kipo:

Like, I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I would win against a honey a honey badger. A honey badger? Yes.

Wylie:

They're kind of hard to subdue.

Kipo:

And you can't, yeah.

Wylie:

I mean they're That's the thing is they're agile and really vicious.

Kipo:

They're tough. They just keep going. Like I I saw a video recently that one got kicked by an elephant like multiple times and still lived. Yeah. So I just I just A wolf?

Mimir:

I'll all I'm saying is I think I would like have that. If I was like pumped out of my brains, I'm ready to fight, like I'm going in and it's like, hey, if you don't win this, you're dead kind of situation. I'm like, okay, I'm fighting for my life. I'm gonna kick it into another gear that never done it, you know. I understand that. That's my that's my brain. What's the maximum if I was maxed out max maximum thing I could take? I think a wolf would be.

Wylie:

I think there's certain animals that you can get the jump on, like that they're not used to like like with a wolf, if you could get your arms around its neck really good, yeah. You know, I don't think it would be as easy to do that with a honey badger. No, you know, because they don't have much neck and they're just so fast and they're so sturdy, like you were saying, like they can get trampled by an elephant and be pretty cool. So it'd be really hard to like do enough damage to a honey badger to subdue it. But even like a crocodile, like if you can get its head down and like get its jaws secured, especially if you're on land, yeah.

Mimir:

I just think, yeah, I just think that you know the creature is not fighting as much as like you would be fighting. Does that make sense? Like it doesn't have the same awareness that you have, and so yeah. I know that's a crazy I know that's crazy.

Brad:

No, no, no. I'm just man, I'm trying to figure out for me because I'm like, I don't I don't know what what would I fight? What would I be willing to fight?

Wylie:

How many chickens would you fight?

Brad:

I think I think the question is how many chickens have you fought?

Wylie:

Right, because you have you have the experience because I would say like 15, but that's crazy.

Brad:

That would be pretty overrun, honestly. If they all want to fight if they all want to fight you play Zelda, that's just a little chickens come at the weekend point, man. Um so I think two, so I can't go out. Like, I think we can gator. So I have a lot of Cajun family, and so like uh funny enough, uh, if you've ever seen Swamp People, my grandmother's house was on the river in one of their like Christmas episodes. That's crazy. So like yeah, like I that's what I grew up around here and there, but um but yeah, for I I would say the guys that do like um alligator hunting, it's like they have guns, they've got stuff to catch them, and well, you know, but it's not just like bare hand take them on. I don't I don't know if any of them would be willing to do that. I mean maybe they are some of them are crazy enough probably to do it, but I know for me, I have two of my biggest fears in the world sharks and gators. And and the reason I'll say for sure for both of them is if I'm in the water, yeah, right. I am very afraid. If I'm on land, of course I'm not afraid of a shark on land.

unknown:

Land sharks, bro.

Brad:

You sound like all all my friends that are old miss fans. Um Land Sharks, yeah. Uh anyway, but uh but a gator though, like they they can still run pretty quick and stuff, and I I just do not want to deal with the gator at all. So all right. I think it's partially so being here in Alaska, I think part of it is with I because what's what's the thing? All right, with the three different types of bear. Yeah, right polar bear, you have no chance. Yeah, you you no never uh grizzly, just lay down and get in the fetal position, right? But then the other one is the black bear, they say fight back, yeah. Right.

Mimir:

So if it was trying to kill you, I feel like that's different.

Brad:

Yeah, get but they're scared animals, right? It does depend on the size of the black bear, too, because there are smaller ones, right? So, like a small black bear, I think I think I could take it. Get that thing in a chokehold.

Kipo:

Yeah, right. I mean size, yeah.

Brad:

Now the thing is, would I be just like really scratched up? Absolutely. Like I would that that would be very painful, but I think I could So a small black bear. A small black bear.

Mimir:

I think I think I could a baby black bear. Brad wants to kill all the cover.

unknown:

He does.

Brad:

Uh that's uh it's like that's why his character took the egg. No, so I I think I think I go uh small black bear. I I think I think I could, but I hope I never find out.

Wylie:

I hope none of us ever have to think about it.

Brad:

Although, if we find out, could be a really cool story or a really sad story.

Mimir:

Yep. What about as our characters?

Kipo:

Three chickens.

unknown:

Three chickens.

Kipo:

Probably wouldn't win.

Wylie:

That totally tracks for Cobble. Three chickens.

Mimir:

I don't know what I would be able to take. I have pretty beefy hit points. I don't know what the like DD or real life.

Brad:

And this is the same, like bare handed though. Yeah, that's what we care.

Kipo:

Oh yeah, I wouldn't win against anything. I wouldn't win against anything. Yeah, my strength is pretty tight. Yeah, yeah. No hammer, no spells. Yeah, no spells would be a hard one.

Mimir:

I'm cooked for all of us. Chat room. Let's see what my A's.

Brad:

I'm about to say my dude, yeah. He's not gonna be able to take on much. Right.

Kipo:

Yeah.

Mimir:

I probably could take on a bear. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, that would checks out for a character, yeah.

Brad:

Not a polar bear, but just a regular would, but probably take on a fox, you know.

Mimir:

What a what a contrast. Yeah, what a contrast. That's crazy. What would what would Cobble take on a big rock?

Kipo:

Oh, like willingly, what would yeah, because I said he would lose against three chickens. Yeah. He would. And I don't I don't know. I mean a hamster. Oh nah, yeah, you could take a couple hamsters easy. Hamsters aren't spicy. Hamster swarm. Spice hamster. Uh kind of like three pigeons. No, maybe a raccoon. A raccoon. Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

Kipo:

Oh, those dude's scrappy. Or you know okay, no, I'll change it to Australian possum. Australian possum. Do you know what they look like? No. What is an Australian possum? Because so I was walking through um a park in Melbourne, and we shined our flashlights on our phones at this tree, and all you see are eyeballs looking at you. Like the whole tree. Oh I'll be honest.

Wylie:

They're pretty cute. They're cuter than American.

Kipo:

But then they started like creeping towards us in the park. That's crazy. So it was crazy, but they look cute. Like they're they're like big chinchillas.

Brad:

Yeah, they're those look way better. Because I was thinking of our possums.

Kipo:

I'm like, those are scary. Those are yeah, those are crazy. So an Australian possum, I think he could, I think he could take it.

Mimir:

I uh I was thinking sloth when you said possums. And I would say uh that's so funny to watch Cobble be like sizing up a sloth.

unknown:

Right now, right, where are you going out of it?

Brad:

The sloth is barely moving, it's barely slowly moving. Although it can put its hands around you, and they're like, oh though, don't can't sloth like for a very, very short stint of time like do something fast.

Kipo:

Yeah, I thought they could do it.

Morpheus:

I think I think they're like you gotta have something.

Kipo:

Come on, bud.

Mimir:

I think it's like uh pandas, how they're like going extinct because they're not deadly at all, and they're just like fluffy like animals, and they like what a funny uh uh terminology. I mean there has to be something.

Kipo:

There has to be something. Uh you don't want to mess with a koala bear. No at all. The ones that you get to hold in the zoo, yeah um not that I've done it, but they drug it, drug it, yeah, too sleepy, but they have super vicious claws. Yeah.

Wylie:

That's where the bear part comes from. Like they're not really bears, but yeah.

Brad:

That's like uh it makes me think of otters. Like, you know, just growing up, we're just like otters are so cute, awesome. And then it wasn't until I moved here that people were talking about. I'm like, oh yeah, those things will rip your face off. And I was like, oh, oh, they're mean, okay. They're bigger than you think. Yes, they are a lot bigger. Well, the ocean otters are way bigger than a river otter. Ocean otters, yeah. When I first saw one of those, I was like, wow, that's massive.

Mimir:

I can take an otter. Put me in a room right now with an otter. I'll take it right here.

Brad:

I can take it.

Wylie:

I'll put it right now. I'll find you starting in. And Wylie says, well, actually, I have this cage right. Yeah, yeah.

Brad:

We've just been hearing a chirping throughout the N

Wylie:

No snacks, until you fight the otter.

Mimir:

And I'm like, my shirt just start pointing a little bit over the face. That's crazy.

Speaker 6:

That's fun.

Wylie:

Okay. Well, um speaking of fighting, um, I was thinking about video games, and I was thinking about couch co-op video games. So those are games that you can play with a friend next to you, which is kind of hard to find sometimes these days. But um, and I know we even mentioned overcooked in our one shot. And um, so I was thinking it might be fun to talk about some of our favorite um couch co-op games. Because I definitely like overcooked. That's a really fun one. But you need like the right teammate. Yes. That's a that's the kind of game that can be like friendship breaking. Yes.

Brad:

So when you're talking about co-op, you mean the ones that you are working together, not against each other.

Wylie:

I guess you wanted to say like Mario Kart or you know, like some that I would say that those count too.

Brad:

I I have some legit like co-op ones that you were you're working together that come to mind.

Wylie:

Um Yeah, that's just the name for the um genre is couch co-op because you can play together.

Mimir:

First one popped in my brain was like Mar Mario Party that I would love to play again. Like I don't play it all that often anymore, but you get a good Mario Party game going. You lose friends.

Kipo:

Yeah, that's both you're playing against and with. Yeah, because of the team battles. Yeah. That's really good. That's a good game.

Wylie:

I really like the game Nidhog, and that one might be a PlayStation exclusive. Um it might be, I think it's on Steam too. But you're basically um it's this kind of nine-bit really simple style, and you each play these really simple like stick figures and you're fencing. And so you fight against each other, and then whoever hits the first one first, then you're trying to run to the end of the map, and you keep respawning in front of the other player and fighting, and just you keep having this kind of like tug-of-war type experience while you're fencing with each other. And it's really, really simple graphics, just like so plain. It's got like five different maps, it's really basic, but it's a lot of fun. And sometimes when you get matched really well, your match can go on for like 18 minutes, just back and forth and back and forth. Um, we'll have to play that one sometime because it's it's a really fun one, but it definitely like your hands start cramping by the end of it. It gets really, really intense. But that's a really fun one to do tournament style too, where you like play winner and stuff like that.

Kipo:

I'll throw it back to 2006. Classic Wii sports. The OGs, just playing tennis back into it. Yeah, yeah.

Wylie:

But they have some of those on the Switch now too, right?

Kipo:

Yeah, yeah, I think they have uh they've updated blue. Now it's like a bunch, it's everything. They've got curling. Well, actually they even had curling in some of the Wii resorts. Yeah, yeah.

Brad:

But all right, there's one that we play a lot, uh, and is one of my absolute favorites, but your fingers are gonna kill you by the end of it. It's called Heave Ho. Oh and basically your your character is just like a little round, it's like a face, right? Whatever face you choose, and then it has two arms, and that's it. And there's like maps that you have to climb through, and your your trigger, your left and right trigger are your left and right hands. Okay, and then your direction points your arms into whatever direction you want them to go. And so you grab onto something, but you can let go of one hand and point a direction so that it reaches out, but you can also like swing. Oh but as a as a group, you try to work together to get across the map, or like whatever the obstacle is. But if you drop, you uh your person literally like explodes and it's like paint goes everywhere, whatever color you are, and then it restarts you, respawns you, and you just keep trying to go through. But it is the funniest, it's so much fun to play, like it's it's hilarious.

Wylie:

Yeah, that sounds really hard with the coordination, but it's really fun.

Brad:

Yeah, the as you start to pick it up, it gets easier, but it's still like even if you just start the first time, it is so funny. It's so much fun.

Wylie:

Yeah, it's called Heave Ho.

Brad:

Heave Ho. It's on uh I know it's on Switch, I don't know if it's on anything else or not.

Wylie:

Oh, that's even harder on the switch handset.

Brad:

Yes, it is rough. Um, there's another similar to Overcooked. Um, it's called Moving Out.

Wylie:

Oh.

Brad:

And you you play as a moving company. But yes, but you get you get more points by like smashing out windows and like you're literally just throwing stuff into the truck, and like it's not like oh let me try and do this. No, it actually the worse you do it, the better, but you've got to get it all to fit in the truck and a certain amount of time.

Wylie:

Is it like a Tetris element of trying to get it to fit into the truck?

Brad:

Yeah, yeah. I mean, not Tetris in the sense of like literal Tetris, but like you're just trying to get it to fit and so that way it'll close up. Um, and man, it is hilarious. At the end, you're just like throwing stuff in, you know, because you can throw things across the way. It's you can even pick up your coworkers and throw them. Like it gets it's so much fun. Or you can slap them, you know, it just like it's it's so funny. Yeah, that that one's a lot of fun too.

Wylie:

Uh-oh, that sounds really good. I definitely love Mario Kart. Like, I think that I think the N64 was our first console and just playing all together. So you can't beat that. And it's fun to be able to play a bunch of the different maps, you know, even from the N64 and stuff on the Switch, which was really fun.

Brad:

That's literally, I think, my first memory of a game. Oh, wow. Yeah. Because uh we we got it, I was really young. It was for Christmas, yeah.

Kipo:

And that's what came with it was Mario Kart.

Brad:

Mario Kart, yeah. I remember walking into my brother's room because we had just gotten it like for Christmas or whatever, but my dad is sitting there playing it, like and I'm just like, whoa, what is this?

Kipo:

I'm slowly realizing that's gonna be me.

Brad:

Absolutely, yeah.

Mimir:

There's a game that an old, old game called Double 7, and that was really wrong. Um, we used to play that uh on the couch, but that's really old. There's a new one coming out, but yeah, always picked like odd job, and you would have a hat and it's an insta-kill, and so that's all I would use. I would just use a hat the full time. But yeah, that's the only game that I would play couch-wise, because I was always like an Xbox guy or thing at 360 and stuff like that. So yeah.

Brad:

Does anybody remember the game? Um, it might be similar to that, but it's like it was an arcade game first, where you it's you and your partner going through and like you're basically like cops or whatever, and you're like shooting as people come onto the screen. You could like duck behind something, come back out, shoot. Um man, I'm trying to remember the name of that game.

Mimir:

It's like an iRobot, or not iRobot, but um RoboCop kind of game.

Brad:

It's almost like I don't think it's Counter-Strike, but there was something similar. It was like a it was a gun game, but it wasn't like I run across the map, right? You you go together in certain spots and you basically clear it out and try not to take any damage. That's what I remember with my brother years and years ago. I can't remember the name of it. Oh wait, is it um ring the bell? The one a Tom Clancy's based off of, I think, maybe. Should be. I think that might be a Rambo 6, yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's it.

Kipo:

Yeah, I'm not I'm not find anything.

Brad:

That's okay.

Kipo:

I love Super Smash. I did that's one because you can do teams. Yeah, Smash Bros. You can do teams for that.

Brad:

I'm so bad at Smash Bros. Oh, I'm terrible at it. I I enjoy playing it, but I am terrible at it.

Kipo:

Oh there's just so many characters with so many different abilities and stuff that it's it's very fun to have that option.

Mimir:

Nintendo really nailed the couch experience. Yes, yeah, they really nailed that niche of a thing. Yeah, you know? Um and yeah, it's interesting, it's very interesting. Because like now I play computer games with my friends, but I wish there were like some games. Like we play Peak right now, and I would love that to be a couch potato game where you can like invite your friends over and play Peak together. Yeah. Um so uh I I'm curious if you guys have any games that are like that, that you're like, man, I wish this was back in the old day where you can like invite people. I mean, you can still do that, but where you would invite people and uh want them to come over, like Halo and stuff.

unknown:

Oh Halo's there already, yeah.

Mimir:

Yeah, it's game. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's it's definitely we used to do Halo 3 land party. Yes. Um yeah, and I'd just do yeah. You had like six or seven guys uh all come over to a house. Yep.

Kipo:

Um and just a TV split out every word. TVs, planting swabs. We had polars full of mountain dew voltage. Yep, yep.

Mimir:

It was so funny because we would all go play Ultimate and then we would come back from Ultimate Frisbee and go and play Halo 3 together and spend the night and just play jam out on games and then go sleep in random areas of the house. Yeah.

Kipo:

Yeah, I would sleep on the ground. But my buddy didn't have enough blankets. And so we found no, we found this flag that he had hanging up on the wall. And so I used the flag as a blanket. And I think if you're the generation yesterday.

Mimir:

Especially in Alaska's.

Wylie:

But you survived it. Did I? It made you feel like that.

Mimir:

It was worse. I'm not for the better. I hate being cold. So that's just made up.

Wylie:

Our youth group would set up some land parties. And so you could there's always like some projectors and stuff around, so you could get some bigger screens. So it was always the race for like who could get the big screen versus those who were crowded around like the old tube television.

Brad:

The rounded screen.

Wylie:

And everyone would always pick these crazy names because it it wasn't like your normal gamer tag, it was just, you know, whatever, a temporary name. And I it was so funny with Halo because it would say like, you've been killed by fluffy bunnies. Yeah. Like you've been killed by gummy bears. We'd have all these goofy names for yeah.

Mimir:

Yeah, Halo was that that idea. Always running through those games and stuff like that, or Call of Duty, do like gun game and Call of Duty 4 and stuff like that. Um but yeah, I miss those, I miss those days. We in college recently, like we we would have uh gun game, and then if we died or we got last, we would switch out. And so then there was like punishments that would go along with it, and so you'd have to like run the stairs or other things. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah.

Wylie:

Yeah, there's so many games that would be great couch co-op, but they're only online co-op or you know, like it would even be fun to play Assassin's Creed together with like two. That would be so much. So people doing a mission like in coordination would be super fun.

Mimir:

That'd be a lot of fun.

Wylie:

Yeah.

Mimir:

Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like games have gone a little lower like quality in that area.

Kipo:

Yeah, multi-player at home. Yeah, I mean, there's no need with the um advancements in online. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Mimir:

And yeah. It's always interesting, always having like you think your friend is the best in the world when you're playing on land with them. You know, I was that guy who was like, oh, everybody's hitting their shots, you know, and he's like, wow, this game must play. And then, you know, you go and play in a lobby and you're like, oh, this dude from Germany is Yeah, exactly. So I of a different level. Yeah, I like it. I played professional Call of Duty and Halo 3 um back in the day. Um, and I remember like going over like to land parties and just like kicking the butt out of everybody, and then going tournaments, like playing online tournaments and being like, oh, this sucks. Like I want to go back. I want to go back to being good. Yeah, it's work now. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6:

So it's so funny. Yeah.

Wylie:

Yeah.

Mimir:

It's so funny.

Wylie:

No fun. I think one more like um couch co-op that I really enjoy is Gang Beasts. Um, not have a it's so.

Kipo:

Most recently I've played the first for the first time.

unknown:

Yeah.

Kipo:

I only watched it. It was uh frustrating.

Wylie:

It's so it is frustrating, very frustrating. But it's fun. So it's like um it's a little battle arena. So you I think you can have up to four players, and you're all like the arenas will be kind of crazy sometimes. Like it might be like it might be like a train station and a subway comes through.

Brad:

Or there might be like a giant No, I have played games. I'm remembering it now. Well I'm remembering it, yeah. All these like you have terrifying floppy, yeah.

Wylie:

So these floppy characters, they all look like they're wearing like pajama onesies, like that look like an alligator or chica suit, and they're hard to control, which is what's like it's like you're driving like a baby toddler or something, and and you're just trying to like gr get over and kind of like with your game where you have to grab on to stuff, like to grab the other characters and try to throw them somewhere, try to throw them off the edge and stuff, and it's hard because you're so toppily. So I think even like that one can be frustrating until you realize okay, well, it's challenging for everybody because of this, and then it's just funny because your character you just like many comical moments.

Brad:

Yeah the funny, yeah, when you go to throw someone, but then they end up throwing you, or the train comes by and takes you all out.

Wylie:

Yeah, yeah. It's like oh yeah. When you don't let go of someone fast enough and you get sucked in the case. And there's like ones where you're fighting on top of a moving truck on the highway, and it's pretty crazy.

Kipo:

Young duck and a scientist.

Morpheus:

Yeah, I have played that. I'm I I totally forgot about that game. Yeah. One of my friends was uh he was good at it and I played with him, and so just utterly getting destroyed.

Kipo:

At an equal level, then it's fun, in my opinion. Because if you have somebody who just like owns everybody, it's then you're just dying over and over again.

Wylie:

Yeah, yeah, you gotta start out with the people who have about the same experience. Yeah. All right. Well, I think we've probably talked about enough video games today for our listeners. Hopefully, you guys are still with us and want to stick around for some more behind the funders. And um, on our Patreon, we're going to have a form available so that you can submit your own questions. So if you have questions for us and um that you want us to answer either for individual hosts or for all of us, um, please submit those on the Patreon form. We'd love to hear from you guys. Bye.