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Wylie:

All right, so this is um BTB Behind the Blunders for episode two of our first campaign. So we're all hanging out. We just finished our record and we're gonna chat about the episode and some of the behind the scenes.

Mimir:

Paper scissors, rock, paper, scissors, rock, paper, scissors.

Wylie:

Were you guys rock, paper, scissors people or rochambeau people?

Kipo:

Rock, paper, scissors, yeah.

Mimir:

Oh, really? I don't know, I don't know where Ro-bam-shma-baboba comes from. Because I have I've heard of it, but I've never heard anybody do it.

Morpheus:

So is Rochambeau, is it just a different name for rock, paper, scissors? Okay.

Wylie:

As far as I know. Unless someone else changed it or something.

Mimir:

But yeah, I was just you let us know in the comments of our podcast.

Brad:

What what does Rochambeau mean to you?

Mimir:

Yeah, exactly.

Wylie:

Yeah, I'm really loving your guys' characters. I think it's fun that we're able to get a little bit more of their personalities coming out in this episode.

Mimir:

So cool. It was so funny to walk into a crowd and be like, the legendary story of Zord Mython, and everybody else like look at me and be like, nah, we're good. And I'm like, okay, that tactic didn't work. You know, like immediately go to a different tactic because it was like, oh no, these people are fully like consumed with whatever they're doing, you know? It was it's just very funny to me to like watch everybody do that.

Brad:

And then just a kid going, and like, I was like, what I was like, was it a kid? Was it a kid?

Wylie:

It was like too old for someone to be obsessed with dolls. It was the classic uh someone who lives in their mom's basement and has tons of beanie babies. Are you guys familiar with the laboo-boo trend right now?

Kipo:

No. Is that what that yeah? Isn't that like the creepy looking?

Wylie:

Yeah, they're they they kind of look like a where the wild things are.

Kipo:

I don't like that.

Wylie:

It's like it has like a weird little creepy doll face. I don't like it. But then they're kind of wearing like animal pajamas, is what it looks like. It's the these funky

Kipo:

I don't like it.

Wylie:

Kipo is scared of them.

Mimir:

It reminds me of uh the Phineas and Ferba episode where Candace is like I don't you guys watch Phineas and Furba? Yes. I have, but I'm I'm not sure if I But like um it's like she's obsessed with these really ugly looking dolls. Like she was like, Oh, this is like a doll, but it's like I don't remember what it is called, but that's what if that reminded me of, and I was like, Oh, it's Candice Flynn. There she is.

Brad:

Um I don't know. My I I think of growing up my mom had a had a couple dolls that were very creepy. They're like portion, they're the porcelain. Oh, they were so scary.

Wylie:

Did you guys ever collect anything growing up? Whether it was rocks or hot wheels. Hot wheels.

Kipo:

Oh, I had a good amount of hot wheels.

Brad:

Me, me and my brothers would like uh we would basically like trade them, right? But we we wouldn't just like trade one for one. It was like, I'll trade you two for this one because this one's really special. And it was like we would like set up our own like uh used car lot basically at that point to trade our cars, yeah.

Mimir:

That's fine.

Morpheus:

Yeah.

Mimir:

Yeah, we would never never had anything. I was I do like I collected anything. I think the closest thing now is like dice. I like collecting little cool dice, but besides that, no.

Kipo:

I um I guess my own will collected a bunch of student debt, but no, I have a lot of that.

Mimir:

That's a good point.

Brad:

I thankfully don't have that anymore.

Wylie:

That's not the kind of collection that gains value of the kind of depreciates. It gains value for the banks, I guess.

Brad:

Right, right. Not not for yourself.

Wylie:

Yeah, we were a beanie baby family. So we had a lot of those and they did not pan out as being as valuable as anybody.

Brad:

Uh we also did uh like uh oh shoot, like uh sports cards. So like sports cards, okay specifically baseball cards was the biggest. And then we I still had like some football ones too, but that's really I remember based on cards.

Kipo:

Still hunting around for my Pokemon card collection of my parents' house.

Wylie:

It's hidden somewhere.

Kipo:

It's it's somewhere. It could have uh in mint condition. Yeah, I know. That would be crazy.

Wylie:

Did you guys ever do like uh magic the gathering cards or anything like that?

Kipo:

I didn't know what magic was until I moved up here. Did I tell you the story?

Wylie:

Magic magic the game, not not magic in general. Right.

Brad:

Yeah, he he was he was talking about magic again.

Wylie:

He said you didn't know what magic was. Oh, yes. They just call it magic. Yeah, yeah.

Brad:

My brain went there too, and I was just like, magic.

Wylie:

So you don't know what magic is? What kind of childhood did you have?

Kipo:

You know uh the local hardware store that is around here. And so the um when I when we first moved up here, I needed a job right away. And so I applied there, and I'm like, okay, yeah, just take this interview. Here, take a quiz that says all of your knowledge on all these different parts of a hardware store. So electrical plumbing and paint and all that kind of stuff, and so I go through it, and then there's a verbal test at the end with the owner, and he's a little bit of of an oddball, and so he goes, Alright, uh, last couple questions here. Can you tell me what the five MTG colors are? And I'm in a headspace of thinking like electricity, electric, like MTG? I don't I don't know what that stands for. And I'm like, no, like what what is that? He goes, Magic the gathering? Like, this is a hardware store.

Mimir:

Why are you quizzing me on this?

Kipo:

I am and so I knew about it, but I didn't know much until I started working there because they were all obsessed with it. So okay. Did you did you um research it afterwards? You were like, I have to get this job. What it was? Oh no, no, I I passed. I just didn't get that question right.

Wylie:

So do you know what the five colors are now?

Kipo:

I think I know them. Black, black, blue, gold, red, and yellow. I think that's a good one. Oh, I said gold. Hold on. Not gold. Oh, let me let me try again. White. That's it. Black, white, blue, red, and yellow.

Morpheus:

So not just uh what Roy G uh.

Kipo:

RBG, yeah, right, red, green, blue. Maybe I'm missing one. I don't know. What are the five? I don't play. I still don't play.

Wylie:

Yeah, it looks like it's green, yellow, green, black, and red. So you got what it looks like. Oh yeah.

Mimir:

You're not getting hired, I'm sorry. At this hardverse.

Wylie:

Why? Oh, wait. It looks yellow, but it's labeled white. That's confusing.

Kipo:

Yeah. So I think it is white. Yeah, it is.

Wylie:

Yeah, white, blue, black, red, green. Okay. Good. But they use yellow. It's on like this weird compass thing.

Mimir:

Man, we really should I play magic now. Oh, you know, don't. Well, just with Gavin. That's all I played. Okay. Um and uh let me tell you, still don't know what's on.

Kipo:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm so that's how I when I see people play, I'm like, I have no idea how they're how they're playing this game.

Mimir:

Speaking about magic though, magic rocks. Magic rocks bringing it back, bringing it back.

Kipo:

That I do know about.

Mimir:

Tell us about your little magic rocks. Yeah, where did you come up with that idea of magic rocks?

Kipo:

The magic rocks. I mean, that's that's his spiritual weapon. That's what it is. That's a that's an actual. I know, I know. It just sounds so funny. It's like it's a spiritual weapon. It's it's just a rock. So I get to pick. Uh here, I can pull that up again for what form it takes. For everybody. Yeah, I get to pick what form uh that it takes. It's not that it's a bunch of rocks that make up one form. One rock, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. You make a you create a floating spectral weapon.

Mimir:

It gives you suggestions.

Kipo:

The weapon can yeah, here. Here's what it says, which could be so much cooler than what I said. The weapon can take whatever form you choose. Clerics of deities who are associated with a particular weapon, as Saint Cuthbert is known for his mace and Thor for his hammer, make this spell's effect resemble that weapon. And so it isn't even a rock, it's like a rock-looking weapon, technically.

Mimir:

Yeah. It's one of those spells where you know it depends how nice the DM is, but like at one point I made like a spiritual weapon, and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna make it of their enemy, which was like a person. Because I was like, Oh, that's the most like thing that would damage them. And then when it hits them, they're like sassy, and the DM was like, you know, yeah, that totally works. And it's like, okay. And then I was like, How far can I push? You know, how far can you push it with like now? Their enemy, you know, is like, are they attacking my spiritual weapon that can't take damage? You know, like yeah, that kind of stuff. Yeah.

Kipo:

But love the that's my magic rocks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, turns out they are actually kind of kind of magic. I kind of there's nothing special about these rocks.

Mimir:

They makes it look like you think that they're special? Because I didn't tell you that I cast Minor Illusion. Do you want me to tell you my backstory? No, no, no, no. I'm I'm curious as like because I cast Minor Illusion. Yeah.

Kipo:

Were you like Oh, because uh it was What did you do? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess I didn't see you do that. So he was probably okay, so he wouldn't be surprised if they actually were.

Mimir:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he You don't have to tell us a backstory. I mean I think it's just interesting of like.

Kipo:

Well, it's obvious that he hi he he holds them in high regard. Just rocks in general. Yeah, that's it. And so for him to see that happen, um just maybe further confirms his own like insanity about them. Maybe I love that. So yeah. Very uh very fun character. I'm trying not to overdo it with the rocks, but at the same time, is what he likes.

Wylie:

And he that's what he knows right now.

Kipo:

Oh, that's what he knows right now. That's true, too. Yeah, that's that's a good point. Thank you.

Wylie:

That's a piece of idea. I like that we uh we got to experience Morpheus' first job.

Brad:

First job that he knows of.

Wylie:

And inspiring too. Inspired.

Mimir:

In in like less than a 20 minutes panel. I love the idea. You're like, oh no, I get a break. Yeah, yeah. Like you don't remember, but you it's like you didn't ask or anything. You just like, yeah, I just assume I get a break. You're a classic teenager kid that's like the first job.

Wylie:

Yeah, exactly. I can take my break when I want, right? Yeah, exactly. I can eat this leftover food, right? Yeah, exactly.

Mimir:

Insane.

Brad:

I I will say, okay, actually, funny enough, my first job was dishwasher. Oh, was it really? At a restaurant. No joke. And I can't tell you how many times. I never did because there was kind of like this like I don't want people to judge me, even though I wasn't. I was a teenager in high school working at this place. Oh, yeah. But how many times you would like I would get dishes back, and they were just like, someone took like two bites out of this hamburger steak. You know what I mean? Massive, you know, and you're just like Oh, I did that all the time.

Kipo:

I would need the breadsticks and anything. I don't know why they don't touch to go boxes. It's like, what do you do? I don't get it.

Mimir:

What? Oh, do you get it to go boxes or no?

Kipo:

No, I I also worked a food service job. Okay, okay. I was a w my first was a waiter, and so I when I took the same thing, yeah, and I went to clean up, especially upstairs where nobody else was, and I saw bread, like untouched breadsticks. Right, right. No, they were gone.

Mimir:

Yeah.

Brad:

And so I was always just like, I wanted to, but I was like, you know, there's another dishwasher, and like we're in a pretty big open kitchen, so people could see. So it was just kind of like I wasn't there by myself. Like if I would have been by myself, I'd be like, I'm eating this, I don't care.

Mimir:

So you're living out your fantasy of the leftovers.

Brad:

Yeah, of getting to eat the leftovers. Well, I did work my way up to fry cook. And so whenever I became fry cook, if you know, like you made an order, you made too many, or messed it up somehow. Sent it back. You know, it's like, oh yeah, I can eat those. Or or it's just like, hey, I'm just gonna make sure that you know this is cooking well. I'm gonna throw in a couple extra and I'm gonna try those. Yeah.

Mimir:

I love that. I love the idea that they're metal plates, and the way you describe it was like, it's hard to break these, but you almost did.

Brad:

You know, like they're just bent.

Mimir:

I love the idea of they're like, okay, hey, we got a new hire. Hey, that's pretty good. And it's only a golden hour. He'll be fine. And it was like, no training points. No training. And then they're like, oh, sweet. And then the next 10 minutes, he's like, okay, I probably should check. I heard a bunch of banging, probably should check on him, and you're gone. Gone, yeah.

Wylie:

Sitting at a table, eating food table.

Mimir:

Such a crazy concept.

Wylie:

Good, good, good little uh job arc for you.

Mimir:

Oh yeah. Man, I I think it's interesting to have like all of these individuals where you're like, oh, okay, hey, can I talk to you? And you're like, I don't really know where to search for you know, stuff, which is um like a little frustrating, but it's also good. I think it's also a good thing of like we're experiencing more of the town and stuff like that. Um being swept swept away is really cool. Um being swept away, cobble.

Wylie:

It is creating such a fun image of cobble's little hands. Yeah.

Mimir:

It feels like uh I I mentioned the hobbit, but um it feels like the hobbit situation where you know he just ducks down and just so small that they all just ignore him. Yeah. So yeah. Cobble. Ends up in the ring. I love him. Yeah. Cobble's amazing. He's a hero.

Kipo:

He's a hero. He has not put any effort towards helping anyone, really. Yeah. He's just here for rocks.

Mimir:

Yeah. Zard is like trying to keep the crew together, and it's like, this guy does not know how to use the weapon. Right. Like, right. He's gonna cut himself one time or something like that, and then I got rock man over here. And so I'm like trying to balance of like, yeah, like I love the idea that Zard's like, yeah, we got this, like, we're doing great. And I like I'm like, hey, watch this, and then everybody messes up, and I'm like, oh no, no, like I am bad.

Brad:

I feel like it's gonna be like Zard, you're you're like, this is gonna be a great story, yeah, and then it just all falls apart. It's like, oh very funny.

Wylie:

Yeah, and you get well, you guys did knock out the goblins pretty quick, and they has lower stats and stuff, so then the bugbear, the bugbear is a little bit more challenging.

Mimir:

It's great. I love how that's their champion, and I don't know if it's because like the bugbear just you know sweeps house, um, or those two actually like are good, but I mean they're just hanging out, like I think they're just friends, you know, of him, and he's like, Well, we need a third, you know.

Wylie:

It's it's the only way he can well, I think that the little goblins used to participate in a trio when they were snap crackle and pop. Yeah, and then pop got you know taken out. And so snap and crackle is still trying to stay in the trio game. You know, yeah. And so they're like, well, let's, you know, like mix it up.

Mimir:

It was our biggest friend, you know, yeah. Skids at them and like Billy Bob. Yeah, exactly.

Brad:

Okay, whenever you threw out Billy Bob, like 100% brought me back to South Mississippi because I I know. Uh shout out. Shout out, yeah. There's uh I grew grew up knowing a Billy Mac.

Wylie:

A Billy Mac?

Brad:

Billy Mac, yeah. Uh and uh man, I'm worried if I I don't know if I should then say too much. It's fine, it's fine. Yeah, yeah.

Wylie:

But this that's an awesome name.

Brad:

Yeah, yeah. Billy Mac, yeah.

Wylie:

That's like that, I don't know. There's something cool about that name. I like that. That's fun.

Brad:

Yeah.

Wylie:

Dwain. What is that lit? Um is it like Taledega nights or something?

Brad:

Ricky Bobby. Ricky Bobby. Ricky Bobby. Yeah.

Wylie:

Ricky Bobby coming.

Brad:

I I know a Ricky Doodle. Yes, I do. Okay, I will say Ricky is his face first name. Doodle is uh nickname given.

Wylie:

Oh, okay. I will say Doodle's a cool last name.

Brad:

Yeah, yeah. No, Ricky Doodle. Yeah, that's not his last name. But yeah.

Wylie:

That's a good nickname too. That's fine.

Brad:

We're we're the land of uh either made up or God-given nickname or like middle names. Like and it's like two names in one, yeah.

Wylie:

That's so funny. That's awesome.

Mimir:

Okay, good episode. I'm excited to see what's in this house, what are we doing there?

Wylie:

So yeah, yeah, I'm excited for you guys to meet some some more new characters, get a little bit more answers and stuff, and be able to start finding out more about the town.

Brad:

I'm about to say, 'cause the the town does have me curious of just like what is going on. Like I get that everybody's got their thing that they're like really into, right? And like I guess like pleasure seeking kind of, right? Yeah. But like, how is this happening? What is causing it to happen? I don't know. Yeah, it's is there somebody that's in control of that happening?

Kipo:

Or I don't know if it could be like a spiritual disease.

unknown:

Yeah.

Kipo:

Or something. That way it's not like a person, but a curse. You're around maybe a curse, but you're around something for so long that it starts to consume you. And you don't even realize that you've been in that way. Yeah. Hmm.

Wylie:

Yeah. I know I know you guys already had to sort through so many clues when we did our one shot and stuff, and there was a lot of investigation. So I promise to start to bring some answers around before too long. So this is not it's not gonna be a total um lost the TV series. Although you guys are like literally lost and have no memories.

Mimir:

And it's actually pinboards out, guys.

Wylie:

I promise I do there's no airplane crashed in the cave or something. I need to plant an airplane somewhere. It's not pain.

Brad:

It's uh it's it's like a stone dragon.

Wylie:

Stone dragon.

Brad:

Or I don't know, it's it's a metal dragon.

Wylie:

Metal dragon?

Brad:

Yeah.

Wylie:

Oh, that would be super cool. And um the well, I don't know if this is a spoiler, but if anybody plays the um the Rime of the frost maiden, the Icewind Dale campaign for DD, um, there's a really cool mechanical dragon that's in part of it. And so it's like pretty fun and steampunk.

Mimir:

Oh, cool. Don't get any of those ideas. We don't need to fight a metal dragon, which their fight would have been.

Wylie:

And your characters are only level three. Yeah. So I just start you guys out even a little lower than our one shot o

Mimir:

It's crazy like how often you succeed. I I said this partly in in the in uh the thing, but it's crazy to swing and hit. You know, yeah. I'm like, he's not gonna switch to a different weapon. No, and I'm scared. Like, yeah, you may never learn your lesson. You know, and that that frightens me.

Kipo:

You're gonna have to keep inspiring him or something.

Brad:

There's no character to. Development at all.

Mimir:

Yeah, it's gonna be a heavy crash. It's gonna be like, oh, I've been doing so good, and then you just keep on missing and missing and missing. It's gonna be a crash, and it's gonna be like Zard's gonna have to like actually like pour into you a little bit, maybe.

Brad:

Don't worry. There there I'm sure that there will be a moment where things start to come out. Yeah, it's like it's just give it time. He's gotta fail some, you know. It's like in life, you know? Yeah.

Speaker:

Cool.

Wylie:

Oh, so something I forgot to mention in episode two was um I'm gonna need you guys to each give me an idea for a magic item, like a usual basic kind of magic item that you guys would like, that you're that you think that your party like if if like say that Zard had an opportunity to submit a supplies request to someone.

Mimir:

Magic rock.

Wylie:

Yeah, magic rock. Yeah.

Mimir:

I think we should all get a magic rock dunk.

Wylie:

Just one magic rock.

Kipo:

No, it's a magic tumbler.

Wylie:

Oh a magic rock tumbler?

Kipo:

Yeah, magic rock tumbler. That's what I mean. Yeah.

Brad:

I thought of a Yeti tumbler for a second.

Mimir:

I was like, Can I have a skin look up, please? Yeah. I get paper and you get scissors. That's our magical item, and you figure out what they what they do. Yeah, what they do.

Wylie:

Yeah, so something for you guys to think about. We still got a couple episodes before um that will come into play. But and you did put that out there so that you guys as players can can uh suggest those. And for any listeners, you if you're listening to this and you are on our Patreon, don't forget there's a form where you can submit your ideas for magic items. We want homebrew magic item ideas that we can I can sprinkle into the campaign for our players. And you can also submit NPC names because I love that. Um I was really scraping the bottom of the barrel today. Like my natural inspiration was not here. So that's why we ended up with Billy Bob.

Brad:

Hey, listen, listen. If you if you want more names like Billy Bob, just ask me. I've I've got plenty of people I know.

Wylie:

The next time you guys put me on the spot with certain uh NPCs, I'm just gonna point to you and you have to name it.

Brad:

Just gonna throw one out. Yeah, bro. There we go. That'll be fun.

Wylie:

That'll be really fun. Um yeah. So um, yeah, if listeners, if you want to give us some NPC names or some magic items and you are on our Patreon, please do that. Please fill out that Patreon form because I would love to do that, and we want to give you credit like a shout out to you guys as well.

Kipo:

So don't forget to buy your weekly Le Moo Moo.

Mimir:

La Moo Moo! Support uh buy your rock, paper, scissors shirts now.

Kipo:

Rock, paper, scissors shirts, get our merch.

Mimir:

Yeah, RPS. I mean, yeah. It's crazy how fast we came up with a team name. Usually, and it was like it was off of you, Brad.

Brad:

Yeah, well, it was just uh like he was rock, right? And then for you, you were just like, I have my book and my paper and all this. And then you I think you did rock, paper, scissors at one point, and I was just like, I have this huge axe. And I'm like, Yeah, that just really embodies rock, paper, scissors.

Mimir:

We have that piece of paper too. We gotta remember that. I forget that we have a piece of paper that was blank with all of our stuff. Fold a piece of parchment, you stuck it in your bag. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. I have illusionary script, which will help me write in illusions, but um, I don't know uh I don't know where uh what we would do. Maybe there's like illusionary stuff on there. Do you have do you have any spells that could help out there? Like identify. That might help. Might help.

Wylie:

Yeah, no, but you really showed it to Cobble, so yeah, we haven't we haven't looked at it.

Mimir:

I felt like we didn't have time, maybe like in our brains.

Brad:

We were kind of like trying to get out of cave, was kind of the thought.

Mimir:

And then we just kind of have stumbled.

Brad:

Because I had to fight all those bats. I started sprinting.

Wylie:

I just love like picturing cobble doing anything athletic. Like he's just tiny.

Mimir:

The thing of just putting you on my shoulder. Yeah, it's good. I really wanted uh we'll we'll uh wrap up here, but uh I really wanted daggers to get on the other shoulder. Because I would be really cute to have two little guys on my shoulder.

Wylie:

Yeah, I had fun with daggers.

Brad:

He was a funny I like that NPC.

Wylie:

I hope you enjoyed him. Yeah. Um I have a a real life question uh for us. Well, like real life, so if if magic spells were real, right? I there's the the speak with animals spell, and then there's also like a speak or comprehend languages spell. So in real life, would you choose to be able to speak with animals or speak every language?

Brad:

Language. Every language, so animals.

Wylie:

Okay. Why, why, why every language?

Brad:

Sorry, for me, okay, so I really love languages. Uh so whenever I was in college, I did well, I I have an associate's degree and a minor in Spanish, but please don't ask me much because I how much I studied, and I should probably not have that degree. But uh but I did intercultural studies for my my actual major and I just love getting to study different cultures and languages. It's I don't know, it's just a lot of fun. Like uh, especially when it comes to like Ukrainian and Russian. Uh I love the Shrillic alphabet. It feels like a code to break when you're reading it because it's so different compared to like what you know, the Latin alphabet that we have for English. Um, so anyway, no, I just languages are a lot of fun for me.

Wylie:

And not to oh, I want everyone else to answer too, but speaking of Ukrainian, Brad brought us a fun treat today. That's right. It was so fun. We we should have tried it on air, but we don't want Kippo to have to deal with all of our slurping.

Kipo:

Yes.

Wylie:

Kippo does the editing for us. But um Brad brought us a really fun treat. What was it called?

Brad:

So um if if you heard me mention on our one shot from Gordon, uh I brought Kavas, um, which is uh a drink uh in Eastern Europe. Um it's in Ukraine, Russia, I mean, yeah, anywhere in Eastern Europe they typically have it. Uh but yeah, it's uh Yeah, I still don't know how to describe it. It says it's a malt beverage, but it's non-alcoholic. Um but I remember spending some time in Eastern Europe and literally on street corners they have these little uh um like little carts with an umbrella on top of it, and on tap they have kiosks, and you just go up and you know get a get a cup of it. You know, just a nice quiet.

Kipo:

I really liked it, uh, Mimir.

Brad:

Just instantly was like, this is the worst thing ever.

Mimir:

I had a long day yesterday. I was like, ooh, I don't like trying new things, but we'll do it, I guess.

Brad:

I and I I will say the first time I had Kavas, I absolutely hated it. I was like, this is terrible. I don't I don't know if it's just over time, over throughout the years, like my taste buds have changed, but I really enjoy it now. Um, or if it's just the brand that I got where it just tastes like, oh, this is way better. This is good.

Wylie:

Yeah, it was super weird, like um it was sort of a kombucha-y flavor, but also weirdly tasted like bread, which was super interesting. And it's non-alcoholic. So anybody out there, you know, um it's it's kind of fun to try. Maybe not good if you have celiacs or something.

Brad:

Yes, probably don't do that if you have celiac or any gluten intolerance.

Wylie:

Gluten intolerances, but because I was just looking up how to make it, and it says it involves toasting dark rye bread, soaking it in warm water, sugar, and yeast, and then allowing that mixture to ferment. Oh wow. So I don't know how they figured out how to make this in the first place. Yeah, but it does, it basically does it's like a kombucha, um, but not as sour as most kombuchas I've had.

Brad:

Right, it doesn't give us vinegary like that.

Wylie:

And it says you can make a beet version by fermenting beets in and salt in water. So kind of interesting. So if you get a bread kivas, it's probably very different from a beet uh kivas.

Brad:

Correct. Yeah.

Wylie:

That would probably be a lot more like a kombucha or something. And um yeah, but that was that was fun to try. And yeah, I could I could definitely drink a can of it. It was fun.

Brad:

Yeah, if if you're ever looking for it, try to find like a uh uh so here in Alaska we have a couple like Eastern European markets. Um so maybe in your area you could find one uh and you can try out. I'm very positive that they'll have Kavas. Um so yeah, check it out.

Wylie:

Yeah, if I remember, maybe we'll put a picture on our uh Instagram or something. So on Instagram we are Blunder Pod. On TikTok, we are Blunder Podcast. Um I'm not very good at updating the TikTok. It mostly has um the video audio clips. So there's some video audio clips on YouTube and stuff too. But um Instagram is gonna be where you're gonna be able to see the most content. Um but if you're on Patreon where you're hearing this, you probably already see all the good stuff, anyways. But yeah, maybe we'll put a little picture of Kivas. So that was just related to the Ukrainian culture, but back to speaking the languages. So kipo, you said you'd also do languages.

Kipo:

I would do languages. That is uh partly because I wish I could speak a bunch of languages that way it's easier to communicate with people uh growing up. We uh befriended a lot of Japanese friends, and I've always tried to learn their language, and it takes a while. So to just be able to right away know how to speak to anybody would be fantastic. The other part of that is I think animals and their brains aren't gonna be very entertaining, and so I think you'd you would try to talk to a bird and it would just you know it would just say I'm trying to think of that. Yeah, yeah. Trying to think like what would it think about it, just be like bugs, bugs. And I'm totally deaf. Flying, dogs. You talk to a dog, and it's like the the bacon commercial where it's just like bacon, bacon, bacon, food, food outside.

Brad:

Listen, I I can promise you, my dog would just be like ball, ball is life, ball is life, yeah. Kuma is the dog Teddy, ball is life.

Mimir:

Yeah, and I would be like, amen.

Brad:

Yeah, no, and I'll sit there and talk to a cat.

Kipo:

I can I appreciate it. Yeah, to be able to say that you can talk to animals.

Brad:

Although we did for a time, we had our dog trained with the buttons. Oh, did you? With different like, have you seen that? Yeah. I honestly it was pretty sweet where it was just moments where they felt like our dog could communicate with us just a little bit more than just sitting there and staring at us, you know. Like that, you know. Or like, you know, going and standing by the door like I had to go outside, you know. But where it was nice where it was like she would literally click the button for outside. That's cool. Or go for a walk, or you know, food or whatever, whatever it is.

Mimir:

You know, they keep hitting it.

Brad:

Yeah, well, she she would hit like play, and it was like, oh, cool, all right. You want to play? All right, I'm fine with that. Or it's like, or I would just say no play. And you could see just kind of the like, oh I'm gonna play every time.

Wylie:

Always play. Yeah, I that's that's a really hard thing because like animals, that is the thing, they might not be that interesting, and some would be super smart, like maybe dolphins would be so cool. Yeah, and there's the rarity aspect because there are people who can speak different languages, and with AI and stuff, it can translate things. And so there is the temptation, like nobody can speak to animals aside from the buttons. So you know, it would be cool to have that very, very limited access and be the only person who could do that, um, versus like other people could at least speak some of the languages that you could. So the exclusivity of speak with animals seems pretty cool, but at the same time, uh like to be able to actually talk to anybody in the world, like the value of that seems a little bit higher. So it's really, it's really, really, really hard to pick. But I probably would ultimately go with speak languages um versus animals. But I don't know, just being able to get a little bit in and sticking with the animals will be good.

Brad:

It would still be cool, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

unknown:

Cool.

Wylie:

All right. Well, that's gonna be it for us today. Thank you for listening and being a part of our Patreon, and we'll talk to you guys again soon. Bye. See ya. Goodbye.